'Arrrrr You A Werewolf?' - Wolves Attack - 11pm

Thank strawberry float I'm off tomorrow.

What time? I don't want to oversleep.

á wrote:I stayed up for THIS

DML wrote:

DML... Give me your password and I'll count the votes for you.

Shall we all have a sleep over so we can enjoy the mornings festivities together?

Quoted with Phoenix Wright stuff :shifty:

Kanbei wrote:

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:PM-Gate always really confused me, mainly due to not even realising I had received the PM until well after everything had hit the fan, but also because of the strange oversight in the original megaton.

THIS IS A LIE.

Just did an experiment with Sykes, a PM only gets removed from the outbox AFTER it has been read by the receiver. After I sent the information the PM was definitely read by Tiarny BEFORE the gooseberry fool hit the fan.

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:If Kanbei noticed Hank's PMs then surely anyone, even those not at all involved with PM-Gate could have noticed them too? Anyone could have seen that PM, yet it was decided that the only potential "leaks" were the people PM'd by Kanbei. Why was that? It seems like a rather large and unwise assumption. Or was it?

A fair assumption, but nobody but ME contacted Hank to check what he was (Hank confirmed this to me) and if the wolves even had an inkling that night about Hank, he would have been dead

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:Let's look at the three people PM'd by Kanbei: Mockmaster, Parksey and myself. The reason he offered was that he hoped he could trust us, and the chances of us being wolves were low. This was rather unwise, we hadn't really proved ourselves in the game and it was a massive risk to potentially send info about a seer to anyone who could possibly be in contact with a wolf. The information could spread, quickly, like a virus.

I've admitted already it was foolish, let's carry on.

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:The PM came with a warning though, that if anything should happen other people would know and gooseberry fool would go down.
This warning turned out to be almost prophetic, or rather, should I say...
intentionally planted, by KANBEI THE WOLF!
Kanbei, genius, puppet-master, wolf. Yes. Kanbei sent that PM to three of the "biggest players", knowing what was going to happen to poor Hank. Why? What better way to knock out three players the wolves couldn't yet lynch, due to their activity. A wolf would never PM info about a Seer to anyone, it's crazy, and the person who PM'd the information would never be suspected of being the mastermind that caused everything to fall apart. Or so Kanbei wanted us to think.

How could I have knocked you three out? If I really was worried about this information leaking you would be dead by now.

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:The wolves masterminded a trap that we couldn't help but fall into: Our fates were sealed the moment we received the PM! They only had to let things stew, kill Hank, and let Kanbei bring everything to light. Like dominoes, everything else would naturally spin out of control and there would be no way anyone would lynch Kanbei over the unbelievable and surely guilty suspects!

Don't think you've noticed, but today I haven't tried (that much ) to lynch you, yes you appeared in my kill list today but that was due to your semi-inactivity and the fact I sent the PM to you.

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:There is one, other, point of interest. Mori. The man famous for watching PM activity, and yet he didn't catch Hank's exchange... or did he?
The defence claims that Mori was killed by the duped vigilante to prevent Kanbei's plot from ever being revealed! Kanbei was behind it all! The wolf must pay with his life!

Duped vigilante? I know who one of the vigilantes is that hasn't revealed himself yet (I don't know who the 3rd one is) he is the one who killed G-Rat and Dblock, Mocky can back me up on this point.

Also remember, I HAVE BEEN SEERED AS HUMAN. Do you honestly think that the Alpha Wolf would get himself caught up in a mess like this? It would be downright idiotic and stupid.

Oh man, I'm pretty much out from 9 till 5 tomorrow

goddamit.

PostRe: The Football Thread 2009/10 by **DML** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:30 pm

Sorry to have made u guys wait, only got in at 11pm, and only found out then. Only lites r on in my house. Please dont hate me, its a necessity in the circumstances.

PostRe: The Football Thread 2009/10 by **Kanbei** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:30 pm

DML wrote:Sorry to have made u guys wait, only got in at 11pm, and only found out then. Only lites r on in my house. Please dont hate me, its a necessity in the circumstances.

Are the wolf kills tomorrow morning as well DML?

Nothing you can do DML so no worries. With this Phoenix Wright gifathon it's a good night to miss anyway.

Just as well I have to get up early tomorrow (for my trip to the JC

). Will need to check in on here first.

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:

Announcements of announcements

It did occur to me that Kanbei could be framing us for a future "event" - in this case, the killing of Hank.

However, the flaw in that thinking, is that by the time the information was revealed and Hank was killed, the inactive rule didn't apply anymore. If the wolves wanted me, TAP and Mockmaster dead so much, why didn't they just kill us on Saturday?

Kanbei wrote:THIS IS A LIE.
Just did an experiment with Sykes, a PM only gets removed from the outbox AFTER it has been read by the receiver. After I sent the information the PM was definitely read by Tiarny BEFORE the gooseberry fool hit the fan.

You've no way to prove the PMs were separate! It's incredibly convenient that the PM I received matched the one Parksey posted IN THIS VERY THREAD word for word! But here's the catch! The fact the PM was "read" means nothing! A PM is read the moment you enter the inbox, not when you actually read it! Your PM was sent only a short time before ARGONAUT-GATE. I entered my inbox, yes, and read his PM, and then responded! This all happened at 2:02am on Friday morning! He posted my PM in this very thread (along with, hopefully, a time!). Your PM was dismissed among all the confusion, and then I left for Belfast! Your PM didn't even register with me until I returned on Sunday afternoon and saw the mess you had dragged me into!

You've no idea when I read that PM! You only know that I entered the inbox at some point!

Kanbei wrote:A fair assumption, but nobody but ME contacted Hank to check what he was (Hank confirmed this to me) and if the wolves even had an inkling that night about Hank, he would have been dead

Prove it! You can't, because you killed him! If you were in contact with Mori, then it stands to reason that only one person out of the "group" would have contacted him anyway!

Kanbei wrote:How could I have knocked you three out? If I really was worried about this information leaking you would be dead by now.]How could I have knocked you three out? If I really was worried about this information leaking you would be dead by now.

Why would you waste killings on us, when your plan was to have us lynched? If your plan was to find a way to take out major active players, then the reason why you didn't just kill us off is obvious! You couldn't!

Kanbei wrote:Don't think you've noticed, but today I haven't tried (that much ) to lynch you, yes you appeared in my kill list today but that was due to your semi-inactivity and the fact I sent the PM to you.

You've already fanned the flames so all that was left was to sink back into the darkness so you could survive when the axe fell on Parksey and myself!

Kanbei wrote:Also remember, I HAVE BEEN SEERED AS HUMAN.

It seems to me that the only person who can prove that is dead, by your own hairy paw!

Wuh?

TAP, are you saying that me and you got sent the same PM? It may have been the same message, but my name was the only recipient, obviously to avoid the contacts knowing one another.

And the thing about the Inbox thing is false - it only goes "read" when you read it. If you open your inbox and go out, doesn't it say "0 New Messages, 1 Unread Message(s)".

Admittedly, it is very easy to lie about being Seered as a human when the Seer who did it is dead.

Parksey wrote:And the thing about the Inbox thing is false - it only goes "read" when you read it. If you open your inbox and go out, doesn't it say "0 New Messages, 1 Unread Message(s)".

Not taking anyone's side here, but this is patently and demonstrably untrue. Try it with someone you trust. The message is marked as 'received' for the sender as soon as you visit your inbox, regardless of whether you open it or not.

EDIT: To clarify, you're right about the 0 new messages, 1 unread message notification, but that has no bearing on the received status for the sender.

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