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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Cuban Pete » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:38 pm

satriales wrote:
StayDead wrote:ACE OF SPADES. THE ACE OF SPADES.

I'm voting Aaron for the lynch. He's a clever player and I get the feeling his inactivity isn't just because of his timezone. Infact, we should lynch him for being inactive. I really don't think killing Pete is going to get us anywhere. :lol:

The whole idea of picking a random person is so that we can all vote for Cuban Pete, as the random guy hasn't done anything wrong yet. As far as I can tell aaron hasn't posted at all on grcade since the game started, but as it's only been a day that's shouldn't be enough reason to get him lynched yet.

Whether you think Cuban Pete is a vampire or not we have to know now otherwise it will just bug us for the rest of the game and make us look stupid if later he turns out to be a vampire.

There is nothing else to go on this early in the game, so lets lynch Cuban Pete.


A very vampire thing to say.....

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by satriales » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:40 pm

Clarkman wrote:2. Satriales got into the mayoral position in a veritable landslide, something which almost never happens on day one, with a few people just popping up to vote for him. This all comes despite him mentioning that he had 'misunderstood' the procedure for lynching. Not someone I would have put my faith in so quickly then...

That's fair enough. Initially I thought we were lynching two people and so that's why I felt the 2nd person must be randomly selected. When I realised there is a vote and only one is lynched it didn't matter so much who that 2nd person is and so I wouldn't have minded if the others became mayor as long as they put Cuban Pete up for the vote.

Clarkman wrote:3. Cuban Pete. idk. I don't remember ever having played with him in an AYAW. It seems more than likely that he is not a Vamp. Is it not true that he posted that status thing of 'I'm a Vampire' before the Count had even picked out his allies? I haven't double checked this yet though.

More analysis after the lynching. Bad luck Aaron.

He posted that he is a vampire after the roles had been given out.
It shouldn't be bad luck for Aaron as long as the villagers aren't stupid and stick to the plan.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Frank » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:41 pm

Clarkman wrote:Is it not true that he posted that status thing of 'I'm a Vampire' before the Count had even picked out his allies? I haven't double checked this yet though.


I thought that, but the roles were given out on Thursday and his post was from Friday.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Cuban Pete » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:42 pm

It's alright lads, I've already said that!

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Herdanos » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:56 pm

Cuban Pete - what were your reasons for your 'hidden' message? What was your thinking behind it?

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Clarkman » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:56 pm

Okie dokie guys. Just trying to show it is important to be vigilant and pay close attention.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Cuban Pete » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:59 pm

Dan. wrote:Cuban Pete - what were your reasons for your 'hidden' message? What was your thinking behind it?


:lol: there was no thinking. It amused me.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Herdanos » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:00 pm

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Dan. wrote:Cuban Pete - what were your reasons for your 'hidden' message? What was your thinking behind it?


:lol: there was no thinking. It amused me.


Fair enough - but surely you can see why it's made you the No. 1 target. After all, at this stage of the game, there's not a lot else to go on (except for randomly picking targets and hoping that something they say in the debate incriminates them).

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Cuban Pete » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:03 pm

Of course I'm aware of all the boring reasons why blah blah etc, doesn't make it any more true or false though. Diddums to me.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by DaLax » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:20 pm

I'm not quite sure what people who are berating in-actives are hoping to achieve. Frankly, no one is going to have any better ideas than the ones already posted, so everyone posting is just going to lead to spam. The thread has been more than busy enough, and now let's just see what happens once Pete's dust has settled.

It's always been a tactic of mine to keep it on the down-low for the first few days, firstly to avoid being a target for vamps/wolves, and also to avoid getting singled out for a lynching. It's a valid position used by a lot of the players. I'll get more involved when I feel there is stuff to go on.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by The Alchemist Penguin » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:23 pm

The "We must anyone we even slightly suspect as we have to know" is always somewhat disastrous thinking, but it's also somewhat necessary. If we let Pete off now, there will always be this niggling doubt and, if older games are anything to go by, we'll keep revisiting it over the next few days. In some ways, getting it "over with" now, for better or worse, would at least clear the issue up, but it could easily lose us our first villager.

I'm a bit too late with this now, what with the lynch candidates already being announced, so sorry about that (I did say my posting would be erratic at best!), but it still seems like something that needs to be said now, because it'll probably happen multiple times over the course of a game.

How many times in the last game (or maybe the game before that) did we have a last second change that kept someone alive, only for us to return to them the next day, and the day after, and the day after that again? It really tore us apart, and it is something we can't let happen again.

If we decide to lynch someone then we really need to go through with it, or else try our best to eliminate them as a suspect. We can't just "sorta-eliminate" people, as it ends up just causing us to constantly suspect them which ends up distracting us massively.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Herdanos » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:32 pm

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:The "We must anyone we even slightly suspect as we have to know" is always somewhat disastrous thinking, but it's also somewhat necessary. If we let Pete off now, there will always be this niggling doubt and, if older games are anything to go by, we'll keep revisiting it over the next few days. In some ways, getting it "over with" now, for better or worse, would at least clear the issue up, but it could easily lose us our first villager.

I'm a bit too late with this now, what with the lynch candidates already being announced, so sorry about that (I did say my posting would be erratic at best!), but it still seems like something that needs to be said now, because it'll probably happen multiple times over the course of a game.

How many times in the last game (or maybe the game before that) did we have a last second change that kept someone alive, only for us to return to them the next day, and the day after, and the day after that again? It really tore us apart, and it is something we can't let happen again.

If we decide to lynch someone then we really need to go through with it, or else try our best to eliminate them as a suspect. We can't just "sorta-eliminate" people, as it ends up just causing us to constantly suspect them which ends up distracting us massively.


I concur. We don't have anything else to go on, but once we know the result of Pete's lynching (which I'd say is the likely outcome) then we can go from there

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Denster » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:33 pm

Just caught up. Been out with my daughter all day. Looks like it's going to have to be Pete tonight.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Count Nood » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:50 pm

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Drumstick » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:55 pm

Cuban Pete wrote:I'll be quite honest. As my first one of these games (the only long story type game was the resident evil / zombie one)

Incorrect. You were a wolf in DML's very first AYAW.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by FatDaz » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:56 pm

Sensible but I guarantee tomorrow the wild accusations will begin anew, these always end up in wild hunch lynches because "we haven't got anything else to go on" well I think we need a game plan and to stick to it.

In actives is the strategy. It forces vamps to post and hopefully slip up, it also reduces those not interested in playing and most importantly.....

We don't kill off those taking part and those who could help us, previous games have died when vamps /wolves have the majority of active players.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by PCCD » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:58 pm

I too back Pete for lynching.

I'm not entirely comfortable with the idea of taking out Aaronayl because he's inactive. What with the time difference and I believe Japan still has rolling blackouts in effect I feel he does has a half decent excuse for not posting often.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by The Alchemist Penguin » Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:58 pm

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"I have some evidence I would like to share with the court."

Memento Mori is a Vampire.

You are a Villager.

I am a Seer.


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"That was the opening of my PM to Mockmaster, and it was one of the riskiest things I've ever done in this game. It was only the second night, the game was still in very early stages, and yet I decided to risk everything in the hope that Mockmaster wasn't The Count. Why?"

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"Well, because one of Mori's first posts was to name DML, Mockmaster, Drumstick and myself as "likely candidates for being selected". Drumstick was killed off early, a vigilante who fell for Mori's insidious trap, and it was quite possible the rest of the list would soon fall. Would one of the first things the vampires do be to name The Count? The risks seemed too great, the list was too logical as an "early lead", and like Drumstick, The Count could easily have been shot. So I did it. I sent the PM.

Memento Mori is a Vampire.

Mockmaster is a Villager.

I am a Seer.


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"I first decided to seer Mockmaster, amusingly due to Mori's advice. I wanted to target the big players, the "obvious choices" first. I created a list of big players, put them in a somewhat arbitrary order of "biggest players first", and then I went on my way. I wasn't selected myself, despite Mori considering me a "obvious choice", so it was easy to think that anyone else obvious would also be a fellow villager. Mockmaster, it was revealed, was a villager."

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"I had my second choice all ready to go, but then..."

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"I got suspicious!

Watching the thread, there was someone who caught my eye...

The way they took the early lead, threw out the first theories. Then he defended voting for StayDead in an attempt to "even the vote" and keep it a "contest". When I questioned him on this his answers weren't very satisfactory. Which was strange, Mori was always a good player and yet his reasoning seemed unusually weak.

So I changed my mind."


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"I was going to seer Mori!"

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"The response came back."

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"VAMPIRE!"

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"I was giddy, but I had nobody I could trust. This information, so early in the game, was too valuable. I had to get it out there, even at the risk of death to myself. So the only person I could even remotely begin to trust, was the only other person I had seer'd, and was a person named by Mori on "the likely list". So I did it. I typed it up. I left it there. I mulled over it. Should I do it? No. Yes. No. YES! And so I sent it."

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"Then I instantly regretted it. I was sure I had just told The Count I was a Seer!"

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"But after working with him over the last day, and everything he put on the line to take down Mori, I trust Mockmaster."

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-- So why am I doing this? --

"Why am I running out in the open and painting a massive target on my back? Well, because Mori's first action was to paint a massive target on my back anyway! Now once he is confirmed as a vampire, the people on his list will naturally become "quite unlikely to be vampires" and people who are confirmed innocent in this game are very quickly taken out. My time is already limited. If Mockmaster was to die tomorrow, my only contact would be gone!"

"So, instead, I'm here. I'd rather go down fighting, trying to take every last vampire with me."

"Perhaps I'm about to die anyway? At the very least, I'll take Mori down with me and prove Mockmaster right."


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DAY 3 - ENDGAME STARTS NOW!
I can only offer my theories on the following, but:

Mori didn't name Parksey (a well known massively influential player) and despite naming DML and myself due to us running games in the past, he didn't name StayDead despite him doing the exact same. Now, StayDead's behaviour in the game has been erratic at best, and his constant defence of Mori is plain to see, plus Mori voted for him to be mayor with that weak excuse from before. Out of the two, I would suspect StayDead long before I suspect Parksey. I do apologise if you are an innocent, Parksey!

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Psychic » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:01 pm

Tonights lynch will be between Cuban Pete and aaronayl1.

Please Image me your votes with your choice in the subject line by 8PM.


Oh and from tommorow onwards, you can send me your votes once the mayor has announced his lynchees in the thread and pm'd them to me.

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PostRe: AYAV? First Blood!
by Pedz » Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:06 pm

Pm'd. Sorry Pete, had to choose someone.

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