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Did that Luwinski post?

The villagers have played a near perfect game. We have had near perfect wolf games and no one moaned then. Its been an excellently run game, and we still have the search for the count.

Yah 2 times! Made my defence as a villager!

Someone should run for mayor with Clarkman, OTN, Dang Chris and Wiggles.

I'd do it, but tomorrow, my bro in law will be here and I probably won't be around.

Lynching me isn't the answer guise.

But it'll be so much fun!

I'm a villager, I'm afraid. I've never won as a villager before. I'd still really like to Don't lynch me yet.

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:But it'll be so much fun!

K! Lynch me then.

Clarkman wrote:I'm a villager, I'm afraid. I've never won as a villager before. I'd still really like to Don't lynch me yet.

Sorry, nothing personal. I'm happy to bow out for the good of the game, but it could just as easily be a dirty vampire trick. Lynching the two people who seemed to be pushing for change for the sake of change the most means I can bow out of the thread with a (fairly) clear conscience.

Ya, I get that, but I was happy with your system and v. willing to go on supporting it. I am only running because Mocky flatly refused to.

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:

Clarkman wrote:I'm a villager, I'm afraid. I've never won as a villager before. I'd still really like to Don't lynch me yet.

Sorry, nothing personal. I'm happy to bow out for the good of the game, but it could just as easily be a dirty vampire trick. Lynching the two people who seemed to be pushing for change for the sake of change the most means I can bow out of the thread with a (fairly) clear conscience.

Don't bow out for the good of the game. It's almost over, we can win.

Clarkman wrote:Ya, I get that, but I was happy with your system and v. willing to go on supporting it. I am only running because Mocky flatly refused to.

Oh, I misread then! I thought you were running against me tomorrow. Sorry, I was skimming the thread to get up to date and obviously got it backwards.

The following post is probably better off in the after-game chat, but still. This is the first Mafia-style game I've played that had this "elect the mayor" mechanic, and frankly? I suspect that's the source of the problems. We can have powerplays like the ongoing TAP/Mocky combo because of the Mayor's immunity. The fact that the elected mayor has the power to whittle down the lynch candidates to two for that day's lynchings reduces the scope for investigations and speculation, and promotes power players to the forefront. People who are generally ignored and/or less active players (e.g. myself) aren't going to get elected, so have less incentive to get involved in the game.

The other Mafia games I've played has free, public voting, and lynching decisions are made by popular vote, not parliamentary democracy. Of course, it doesn't have one player guaranteed immune to night kills every night, which is really only an incentive for the major players, and a disincentive for the minor players. It's probably GR forum tradition to have mafia games with this mechanic, and honestly? I don't like it.

I also don't like the fact that if you're innocent and are killed, you lose, and I think that one day is too quick for a set of phases. But that's just me nitpicking.

Delusibeta wrote:I also don't like the fact that if you're innocent and are killed, you lose, and I think that one day is too quick for a set of phases. But that's just me nitpicking.

To be fair, that's just a way of stopping people from sacrificing themselves in that sense in *reality* (I know) if you died, then you wouldn't really win either. I wouldn't exactly get too concerned with that, as that rule hasn't stopped dead villagers celebrating victory in the past.

Sorry I'm late, been to my mate's all night. I was wrong last night when I had a little go at TAP and Mocky for picking two apparent randomers for the lynch. For that I wholeheartedly apologise.

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:

Delusibeta wrote:I also don't like the fact that if you're innocent and are killed, you lose, and I think that one day is too quick for a set of phases. But that's just me nitpicking.

To be fair, that's just a way of stopping people from sacrificing themselves in that sense in *reality* (I know) if you died, then you wouldn't really win either. I wouldn't exactly get too concerned with that, as that rule hasn't stopped dead villagers celebrating victory in the past.

Didn't DML do something where the survivors picked people worthy of joining in with the victory?

Everyone on the villagers should win IMO, atleast everyone who contributed but fell in the process.

You're talking like having a rule that says "if you die, you lose" can somehow actually make you feel like you didn't win if the villagers take down the vampires. I'm not going to go "oh, shame i died, I don't feel like a winner" if the villagers win this game. I'm going to feel pretty strawberry floating awesome, dead or not.

It's a non-rule. It is really just there as a way of playing the game (survival is very important), rather than an actual "you died, so you can't feel like you won" thing.

Anyway, can we just win? I vote for TAP.