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Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:26 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
Moggy wrote:Israel blow up an Iranian consulate in Syria which killed some Iranians.
Iran responded with some easily intercepted drones and missiles. Causing no deaths.
It'd be better if both sides stopped acting like utter twats, but I'd say it was very easy for both sides to stop here and not escalate further.
Indeed. On the face of it, Iran's looka excessive, and easily describable as a declaration of war. Sending 300 explosive projectiles towards another country yet it was clearly done in a carefully calculated way that they knew they would all or almost all be shot down and that it would look like a strong response to their own population. If it stops here then Iran can claim they hit back hard and showed Israel not to mess with them but Israel can shrug it off and laugh, saying well that didn't hurt.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:38 pm
by Moggy
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:If it stops here then Iran can claim they hit back hard and showed Israel not to mess with them but Israel can shrug it off and laugh, saying well that didn't hurt.
Exactly.
Iran: "we have avenged the attack on our consulate!"
Israel: "we stopped Iran's attack, any further hostilities will be met with a show of force!"
Rest of the world: "grow the strawberry float up you dickheads"
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:57 pm
by Fade
Has anyone posted a out Germany shutting down a part Jewish organised event for Palestinians to speak?
They called it antisemitic.
Actually insane.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:09 pm
by Knoyleo
So alongside the Houthi in Yemen attacking shipping in the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea, Iran have now seized a container ship that was "linked to Israel" in the Strait of Hormuz, entryway to the Persian Gulf.
https://theloadstar.com/iran-troops-sei ... or-bulker/Most major shipping lines took to diverting around the cape of good hope when the Red Sea became too dangerous, and I can't imagine there's much appetite for them to continue shipping in the Persian Gulf if any vessel that can be tangentially linked to Israel is now at risk there, too. I doubt Iran's neighbours with ports in the Gulf, including the UAE, will be too happy to lose the economic benefits of their export trade when that comes under threat.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:38 am
by Squinty
Everything seems to be coming to a peaceful resolution then
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:21 am
by Oblomov Boblomov
Israeli missile has struck Iran, US official sayI hope everyone likes the taste of radioactive fallout...
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:26 am
by Qikz
Iran have already responded and they've decided not to escalate it any further.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:28 am
by Tomous
Israel is that lad on a night out who after, a pointless fight has broken out and been stopped and everyone is calming down is still going HOLD ME BACK! and trying to swing punches.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:32 am
by Preezy
Israel, bro, just chill out man ffs
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:37 am
by Preezy
Qikz wrote:Iran have already responded and they've decided not to escalate it any further.
Sauce? Associated Press saying they've fired at Israeli drones.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:39 am
by Rex Kramer
Qikz wrote:Iran have already responded and they've decided not to escalate it any further.
Directly. I'd imagine all the proxy routes to attack will be stepping up.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 10:50 am
by Qikz
Preezy wrote:Qikz wrote:Iran have already responded and they've decided not to escalate it any further.
Sauce? Associated Press saying they've fired at Israeli drones.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-04-19/No missile attack against Iran, Iranian official tells Reuters
Explosions heard in Isfahan were a result of the activation of Iran's air defence systems, an Iranian official told Reuters on Friday, adding that no missile attack was carried out against Iran.
More updated article saying 3 drones were shot down and that's it.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-04-19/ https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/18/middleea ... n-intl-hnkThere was only one explosion by an airport and flights have already been resumed. If they were going to respond it would've happened by now/they would've said they were doing something and kept flights grounded.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:00 am
by Preezy
Well that's comforting. I mean realistically Iran aren't going to want this to escalate, so hopefully this will de-escalate from here so long as Israeli put a sock in it.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 12:17 pm
by Monkey Man
ICC chief prosecutor seeks arrest warrants for Sinwar and Netanyahu
Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, told CNN that he is seeking arrest warrants for Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar and Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, among others, on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
A panel of ICC judges will now consider chief prosecutor Karim Khan’s application for arrest warrants.
Khan told CNN the charges against Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, the leader of the Al Qassem Brigades Mohammed Diab Ibrahim al-Masri, Hamas’ political leader Ismail Haniyeh include “extermination, murder, taking of hostages, rape and sexual assault in detention.”
The charges against the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Israel’s defence minister, Yoav Gallant, include “causing extermination, causing starvation as a method of war, including the denial of humanitarian relief supplies, deliberately targeting civilians in conflict,” according to Khan.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... atest-news
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 1:13 pm
by Cuttooth
Only really leaves two options for Israel's allies if the arrest warrants are approved for leaders of both Hamas and Israel. Either try to walk back the unmistakable approval they gave the Israeli government to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, and end arms sales, or completely and utterly rip up the liberal international order.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 1:26 pm
by Lex-Man
It'll be interesting to see what will happen because the people supporting Israel often point out that once this ends there should be another election in Israel and Netanyahu will be removed. He's already facing a lot of charges in Israel and was trying to dismantle the supreme court to continue getting away with gooseberry fool. So they should be pretty neutral on the issue of him facing war crime charges, but we will see.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 2:04 pm
by Moggy
Lex-Man wrote:It'll be interesting to see what will happen because the people supporting Israel often point out that once this ends there should be another election in Israel and Netanyahu will be removed. He's already facing a lot of charges in Israel and was trying to dismantle the supreme court to continue getting away with gooseberry fool. So they should be pretty neutral on the issue of him facing war crime charges, but we will see.
I doubt that the successor to Netanyahu will want to set a precedent of handing over ex-leaders to an international court.
Best case scenario will be Netanyahu getting prosecuted in Israel.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 2:31 pm
by Cuttooth
Moggy wrote:Lex-Man wrote:It'll be interesting to see what will happen because the people supporting Israel often point out that once this ends there should be another election in Israel and Netanyahu will be removed. He's already facing a lot of charges in Israel and was trying to dismantle the supreme court to continue getting away with gooseberry fool. So they should be pretty neutral on the issue of him facing war crime charges, but we will see.
I doubt that the successor to Netanyahu will want to set a precedent of handing over ex-leaders to an international court.
Best case scenario will be Netanyahu getting prosecuted in Israel.
Israel haven't ratified the Rome Statute and don't intend to, much like the US, Russia, and China. There would be no internal legal reason for a new Israeli PM to hand over Netanyahu to the ICC. It mostly means, like with Putin, if he steps foot in a country that has signed up to the Rome Statute then that country is supposed to arrest him.
Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict
Posted: Mon May 20, 2024 3:14 pm
by Lex-Man
I more mean that people who support Israeli should be fine with the warrant on the grounds that Netanyahu is corrupt anyway.