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[Dandy Kong]

Two things I really don't like:

• Arguments going on for post after post after post. Sure, it's good to give your opinion or defend yourself against claims of others. Sometimes though, it gets to a point where it's just useless bickering between two people taking over an entire thread. Really, you don't have to reply, every time someone says something negative to you. Ignoring a person is always an option.
  
• Mods abusing their 'Mod power' to get their last say in a thread that is already closed

[Ario]

Ok, if you go to IMDB.com, you look up whatever it is you wanted to look up and then leave, you dont usually hang around and check out the forums (does it even have a forum). An IDGB would overshadow the forum, which is what we're trying to support by building a front end anyway.

[Cuttooth]

If we're just another gaming website, who is going to care and why would they come here? I still think the idea I mentioned could be a easier choice and who's to say we need to be called 'GRcade'?

That's why people have been coming up things we could be other than just another game website. The IGDb example is one in particular that I think holds water, as I can't think of anything that is quite like IMDb for games. I mean, yes, IMDb does cover games, but it mainly focuses on the voice talent rather than the development talent. The way I put it is if someone really liked Fable II, for example, they could look up Fable II on the GRcade main site, find out that Peter Molyneux was in charge, and find out what other games he made, which may interest them.

It doesn't really work though. The only thing that would, would be a ratings system like the one on IMDb that requires a mystery amount of voting on behalf of each voter, before those votes can be counted.

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Ok, if you go to IMDB.com, you look up whatever it is you wanted to look up and then leave, you dont usually hang around and check out the forums (does it even have a forum). An IDGB would overshadow the forum, which is what we're trying to support by building a front end anyway.

Actually, there are forums, and boards for each individual entry on IMDb. I post there reasonably often when I want to discuss a particular movie with like-minded people. I also think making the forum the most important part would be a bad idea, as it would just lead to a lacklustre main site, and we'd be back to square one.

[Floex]

If we're just another gaming website, who is going to care and why would they come here? I still think the idea I mentioned could be a easier choice and who's to say we need to be called 'GRcade'?

That's why people have been coming up things we could be other than just another game website. The IGDb example is one in particular that I think holds water, as I can't think of anything that is quite like IMDb for games. I mean, yes, IMDb does cover games, but it mainly focuses on the voice talent rather than the development talent. The way I put it is if someone really liked Fable II, for example, they could look up Fable II on the GRcade main site, find out that Peter Molyneux was in charge, and find out what other games he made, which may interest them.

I really like the idea but strawberry float me M, that is some work. If people were really serious about making it I really do think we would need proper meetings to discuss this. Also, if this was to become a reality I don't think the whole forum should be involved. Everyone has an opinion about everything let along coming together working on a project

I would be definitely up for it but it would have to be taken seriously and professionally. Loads of on here have jobs/college/life as it is

[Johnny Ryall]

I personally think we need more boobs.

Speak for yourself.

I'm a broad-minded person, I have nothing against transgenders, so if you want to get yourself some boobs, by all means do.

But personally, I like myself as I am. Without boobs.

I already have ample sized breasts due to tubbiness.

Also on topic I don't think the problem is as big as you all make out. Just post less vag and be more civil to each other and we'll all be fiiiiine.

[Spindash]

http://www.mobygames.com

Sayin'.

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If we're just another gaming website, who is going to care and why would they come here? I still think the idea I mentioned could be a easier choice and who's to say we need to be called 'GRcade'?

That's why people have been coming up things we could be other than just another game website. The IGDb example is one in particular that I think holds water, as I can't think of anything that is quite like IMDb for games. I mean, yes, IMDb does cover games, but it mainly focuses on the voice talent rather than the development talent. The way I put it is if someone really liked Fable II, for example, they could look up Fable II on the GRcade main site, find out that Peter Molyneux was in charge, and find out what other games he made, which may interest them.

I really like the idea but strawberry float me M, that is some work. If people were really serious about making it I really do think we would need proper meetings to discuss this. Also, if this was to become a reality I don't think the whole forum should be involved. Everyone has an opinion about everything let along coming together working on a project

I would be definitely up for it but it would have to be taken seriously and professionally. Loads of on here have jobs/college/life as it is

Of course, we're never going to just jump straight into being IMDb. These things take years to build up. However, I do think we can make a small start and build from there. A journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step. I would be happy to contribute (although I am unsure how much anyone would want to hear my opinions on a lot of things).

Actually, thinking about that, it would probably be better to keep it fact-based to begin with until we have the ability to properly moderate user contributions to prevent trolling and bickering. So basically limit the input to things like the development team, the console, the publisher, the genre, trivia etc. rather than having user reviews and the like to begin with.

[Cal]

Actually, thinking about that, it would probably be better to keep it fact-based to begin with until we have the ability to properly moderate user contributions to prevent trolling and bickering. So basically limit the input to things like the development team, the console, the publisher, the genre, trivia etc. rather than having user reviews and the like to begin with.

I think you've got an good idea there, MCN. It would take lots of effort from just a few, but it could be done. At least it would be some kind of a start.

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Actually, thinking about that, it would probably be better to keep it fact-based to begin with until we have the ability to properly moderate user contributions to prevent trolling and bickering. So basically limit the input to things like the development team, the console, the publisher, the genre, trivia etc. rather than having user reviews and the like to begin with.

I think you've got an good idea there, MCN. It would take lots of effort from just a few, but it could be done. At least it would be some kind of a start.

To be honest, this isn't my idea. I'm just giving it a lot of support.

[bear]

I think the likes of Gamers With Jobs would be a good example for the forum to follow. A basic enough frontpage that gets updated fairly regularly and the most popular forum threads.

[Denster]

I personally think we need more boobs.

.... its just stuff like this that infuriates me! Maybe it is me being a) too old for this place or b) too highly strung ... but this is just complete and utter drivvle that I would expect from some Chav 13yr old ... my days!

Selfish, prudish Chocolate Boy!

... and this is what you get if you speak out agaisnt these people!

Jesus, Laggy. I was never serious. I would be horrifed if that had offended you and can only humbly apologise. I like the banter we have in the football thread and i see you as a valued and much esteemed forumite.


I would not object to some cleaning up on here. I would certainly advocate removing offensive thread titles (swearing and such in the title). I like TCRT and post a lot in there. Yes its spam and a load of banal nonsense at times but it is mainly contained within there.

[Dual]

Two things I really don't like:

• Arguments going on for post after post after post. Sure, it's good to give your opinion or defend yourself against claims of others. Sometimes though, it gets to a point where it's just useless bickering between two people taking over an entire thread. Really, you don't have to reply, every time someone says something negative to you. Ignoring a person is always an option.
  
• Mods abusing their 'Mod power' to get their last say in a thread that is already closed

This is what annoys me. Some people just don't know when to stop and have to have the last word on something.

Maybe we can impose a post quota or something. Or just teach these members some basic manners/common sense.

[Eighthours]

Sarge did raise a good point about RLLMUK having fairly liberal rules in regards to swearing and the like.

I believe that was me.

Still, the point was that there's a mutual respect over there that this place lacks. It's rare that anyone genuinely insults somebody for a start, at least when it's not obviously in jest. Nobody swears in topic titles, and the few NSFW threads are marked as such. Oh, and threads like the mass wank one simply wouldn't happen.

I'm not saying that GRcade should become exactly like rllmuk, but it could certainly learn from it.

As I said in the last post in the locked thread, the big difference between here and rllmuk is that what rules there are over there are enforced vigilantly without people being whining about such-and-such a person being banned. When was the last time anyone got temp-banned here for a good reason without there being a reactionary thread posted in The Forum anyway?

If Karlprof had posted that thread about Hugo on rllmuk, he would either have had a strong warning or been banned. And nobody would have kicked up a fuss about the enforcement of the rules.

There's just a basic respect for boundaries on there. It's why they can have similar NSFW rules without every thread in Off Topic becoming a mass wankathon.

So until and unless things become similar over here, maybe we should think again about acceptable boundaries of behaviour on GRcade. It just seems (sadly) that some forumites can't be trusted with the rules being more lax than they were on Gamesradar. We thought that treating people like grown ups would make them act grown up. Unfortunately, it seems to have done the opposite and so I reckon we need a rethink.

As for the idea of GRcade teaming up with D+PAD, this should be left for now. My personal opinion is that it wouldn't be desirable for either party even as things stand, and possibly even less going forwards depending on what happens over there in the next few weeks/months.

[Kanbei]

Bit off topic here but what is D+PAD up to at the moment? Their site hasn't been updated in a while.

[Eighthours]

Bit off topic here but what is D+PAD up to at the moment? Their site hasn't been updated in a while.

Not my place to say, really. Sorry!

[Cuttooth]

As I said in the last post in the locked thread, the big difference between here and rllmuk is that what rules there are over there are enforced vigilantly without people being whining about such-and-such a person being banned. When was the last time anyone got temp-banned here for a good reason without there being a reactionary thread posted in The Forum anyway?

Since that whole Karlprof saga in ATF, I can't think of anyone moaning about anyone being banned. Skarjo, Adam123, and Wiggles must have all been banned since then and when the reason came to light (posting a graphic image of some sort) anyone who asked just went "Oh fair enough" and carried on.

If Karlprof had posted that thread about Hugo on rllmuk, he would either have had a strong warning or been banned. And nobody would have kicked up a fuss about the enforcement of the rules.

No-one was publicly whining that the thread was locked at least.

There's just a basic respect for boundaries on there. It's why they can have similar NSFW rules without every thread in Off Topic becoming a mass wankathon.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

So until and unless things become similar over here, maybe we should think again about acceptable boundaries of behaviour on GRcade. It just seems (sadly) that some forumites can't be trusted with the rules being more lax than they were on Gamesradar. We thought that treating people like grown ups would make them act grown up. Unfortunately, it seems to have done the opposite and so I reckon we need a rethink.

Just be harsher in your moderation then. I agree that there have been a few posters who have taken things too far or just constantly brought nothing of value to the forums, but because the userbase is so small compared to somewhere like rllmuk, it has a greater effect on the forum as a whole. Don't just suddenly make everything harsher for anyone because of that.

As for the idea of GRcade teaming up with D+PAD, this should be left for now. My personal opinion is that it wouldn't be desirable for either party even as things stand, and possibly even less going forwards depending on what happens over there in the next few weeks/months.

I still don't get it. Have a 'FORUM' link at the top of DPAD that links straight to here, have "Official D+PAD Forum" or whatever at the top of here and you're halfway there. Granted if neither side really want to do it then fine, but I have never seen a proper reason beyond "Oh I don't think they'll want to."

[Eighthours]

Since that whole Karlprof saga in ATF, I can't think of anyone moaning about anyone being banned. Skarjo, Adam123, and Wiggles must have all been banned since then and when the reason came to light (posting a graphic image of some sort) anyone who asked just went "Oh fair enough" and carried on.

I'll have to take your word for it regarding those cases. My recollection of reaction to warnings and bannings must be tuned to the controversial ones!

There's just a basic respect for boundaries on there. It's why they can have similar NSFW rules without every thread in Off Topic becoming a mass wankathon.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Yes, it's obviously not "every" thread (sorry for being lazy with my language there), but the perception of many people is that the general standard of Off Topic has deteriorated quite markedly in the past few months. It's certainly my opinion.

Just be harsher in your moderation then.

Hmmm. That inevitably leads to the shouts of "NAZI MODS!" It's difficult to strike a balance.

[Cuttooth]

Just be harsher in your moderation then.

Hmmm. That inevitably leads to the shouts of "NAZI MODS!" It's difficult to strike a balance.

I don't think you really even need to strike a balance as it's something that surely leads to inconsistent moderation, which a lot of people don't like and others use to see how far they can rock the boat.

Fairly lax rules about swearing and nudity coupled with harsh enforcement of them works the best. And maybe add in a few rules to discourage general constant stupidity where it isn't actually warranted, so we get less 1cmanny's here who provide nothing.

[Abs]

I think the problem is people here are too wrapped up in their egos and being all cliquey, I notice it's allways the same people in trouble with the mods and getting all fired up over one thing or another, while the quiet and more polite members seem to just get by like normal people.. is it really so hard to get along and just make conversation?